it’s been some time now, but in january i read a post here that made reference to yet another blog post here…

to be less mysterious, the whole discussion arose when Clay Shirky wrote a rant about women not being self-promoting, arrogant or jerky enough in pretty much those exact words.

this isn’t a new topic for anyone who’s thought about the way they view themselves, about the way children are socialized, etc. nonetheless quite a few interesting more or less formal texts were written as a result of this spark.

even though it’s about half a year late i wanted to offer it up here for discussion purposes because it’s something i’ve spent quite a lot of time thinking about as well as discussing with both male and female friends…

to begin again:

initial clay shirky post
http://www.shirky.com/weblog/2010/01/a-rant-about-women/

i first read about it here
http://gabriellacoleman.org/blog/?p=1878

further texts

@salon.com
http://www.salon.com/life/broadsheet/2010/04/26/nice_girls_business

should we encourage self-promotion and lies @plasticbag.org
http://www.plasticbag.org/archives/2010/01/should_we_encourage_s/

questioning the merit of meritocracy @geekfeminism.org
http://geekfeminism.org/2009/11/29/questioning-the-merit-of-meritocracy/

a rant about socialization @salon.com
http://www.salon.com/life/broadsheet/feature/2010/01/19/shirky_rant